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In article <[e-mail]>,
Daniel Gross <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <2k95iv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:
>>Path: panix!ddsw1!not-for-mail
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>>It is unstable on, at least:
>>1)      My IBM/Leopard DX/60 that runs everything else.
>>2)      My generic no-name 486DX/33 clone.  Both with 8MB RAM, 16550s, etc.
>>3)      At least three customers systems here.  All common Windows machines
>>        with nothing special about any of them.  One of those customers
>>        says he is stable on A17.  I have one machine which is, and one
>>        which is not.
>
>>My problem, again, isn't with actual crashes.  It is with lost connections
>>that "die" for long periods of time, with long being defined as 1 sec < x <
>>10 minutes.  Note that ANOTHER session continues just fine.

>>The same use pattern on a MAC with InterSLIP or MAC/PPP operates perfectly.
>
>>This is pretty clearly a stack and/or SLIP driver problem.
>
>That's not at all clear to me. I'm an extremely happy Trumpet Winsock
>user (v1.0a), and I have the very symptoms you describe, not constantly,
>but frequently enough that I had to investigate. Using the excellent
>WS_PING utility, and hop-check utility from a telnet session,

Said utilities have been used here as well, but can you <demonstrate>
that the tool is reporting the truth?  No, but a line sniff (tapped RS232)
will demonstrate what was delivered and when.

> I've
>been able to reliably place the blame on the net itself every time
>I bothered to check.

I haven't.  Two telnets to the same point, one is running, the other not,
and the two in question are one Ethernet off the router which took the call.
No traceback of trouble on the router.  Lots on my end.

> I.e. if your modem isn't initialized to support
>the proper handshaking (SLIP is very demanding regarding your modem
>init string), if your SLIP server has connectivity problems, if
>a particular net link that is important to your SLIP server's
>Internet connectivity is down, if the remote telnet host is glitchy
>or down, any of these would produce the behavior you describe.

As could a number of problems in the stack.

But if this was the case, then my MAC wouldn't work under the same
conditions.  Yet it does.  Perfectly.  That leaves the PC or the
software on the PC as the culprit.  All other items did not vary
under test.

>BTW Trumpet Winsock has excellent diagnostic features that would
>show you whether your client apps are having trouble with the TCP/IP
>stack, or whether they're sending messages just fine but are stuck
>waiting on a remote response.

I get no traceback indication that say that Winsock is unhappy.

>I'm using TrumpWinsock 1.0a with a Gateway Telepath (a notoriously
>finnicky modem) and internal SLIP under both Windows v3.1 and Windows
>for Workgroups v3.11.

It will be interesting when Chameleon gets here...

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Peter R. Tattam) writes:

>consider as serious.  Please do *NOT* use this version.  You may run the risk
>of sending out mail with no bodies, and also having no backup copy of the mail
>being sent.

Foruntately, I use PC-Eudora as a POP3 client. It is probably the best POP3
client there is.

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Subject: Site considering winsock, which version?

A large organization is considering Trumpet Winsock for a networking
project.  For testing I have used Alpha #17 which is freeware, I
believe.

Is there a newer version, or a commercial version?  And who would I
talk to about site licenses?

Thanks,

Mike Berry
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